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19-12-12, 09:33 #76
Não serei um pai ausente. Vou sempre ter o meu filho no skype/facetime e vou curtir todas as publicações dele no facebook.





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19-12-12, 09:45 #77
uHUIEHAUOEHIUAHEUA que babaca IUEAIHEUAIEHIAEUIHUi

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19-12-12, 09:49 #78
Vou ser healer na party dele.

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19-12-12, 09:59 #79
@mikelondoncan: @MMFlint Number of homicides in Detroit, MI, 2010 - 310. Number in Windsor, ON, Canada, one mile away - 0. Same movies, video games.

Pelo jeito no Canada a celula FAMILIA ainda é super forte rs

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19-12-12, 10:15 #80
Bora usar argumentos desonestos?

Detroit:
82% de afro-americanos.
710 mil hab.

Windsor:
77% brancos
210 mil hab.

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19-12-12, 10:23 #81
Detroit tem uma área metropolitana com mais de 4 milhões de habitantes, enquanto windsor tem uns 300 mil. Isso segundo a wikipedia.

E outra: no Canadá as pessoas tem o direito de ter armas, acho que isso encerra o argumento dos esquerdolas de plantão.

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19-12-12, 10:50 #82
Entao, eu nao sei onde o atirador estudava, nao conheco o funcionamento das coisas por la, estou me baseando no depoimento da mae do outro garoto com problemas de que vc nao tem com quem apelar. Eu acho que se ele tivesse disparado algum gatilho de "ops, cara que precisa de tratamento", nao teria sido tratado pelo sistema medico, a menos que houvessem queixas de crime contra ele (paper trail), ela teve de apelar pra previdencia privada das boas pra poder internar o menino. E como visto, nao adianta vc ter escolas otimas, se em uma mais simples que nao tenha esse acompanhamento for gestado uma pessoa descontrolada, é que nem vacinacao, ou vc bem vacina todo mundo ou corre um risco enorme de contaminar geral.

Sobre familia, em geral concordo com vc que uma familia bem estruturada, especialmente com gente que se respeite é a melhor opcao mesmo, so que como nem sempre isso é possivel, afinal, nem so de divorcio as familias terminam, pessoas morrem, acidentes acontecem, enfim, acho que com um pouco de boa vontade da pra se achar casos e casos de gente criada so pelo pai ou so pela mae, as vezes so pelo(s) avos ou tio(s) e que se sairam mt bem, obviamente com carga dobrada para o pai participante. Se for pra falar algo, eu diria que esse obaoba de ter filho, de que é lindo, facil e magico é a grande falacia, tem que ter muita estrutura, preparo fisico, economico, mental, etico e sei la mais quantos, se vc esta achando que é como ter um aquario, melhor nem tentar.

E eu acho que o primeiro passo é sim da familia, mas veja, eu dei o exemplo do atirador do cinema justamente pra mostrar que uma familia rica e poderosa (ou seja, tinha grana pra pagar os melhores profissionais e tratamentos) optou por varrer a sujeira pra debaixo do tapete e simplesmente mandar o problema para uns 5 estados de distancia. Nao tenho duvidas que uma familia que realmente se preocupe, ao ver que tem um filho desequilibrado, se tiver grana vai tratar com otimos profissionais, uma familia mais carente vai depender de uma assistencia social competente (ou seja, precisamos ter essa assistencia), mas nao podemos esquecer que justamente esse amor incondicional pode gerar uma negacao (nao, meu filho nao é "louco" e nao precisa de medicos) e evitar que a familia de inicio a esse processo. Como tentar minimizar isso? com mais gente olhando, nao precisa ser so na escola, apenas sugeri por ser a "2a casa" de criancas mais novas e por conversar com professores infantis e ficar bobo de ver as historias que elas pescavam so de ver machucados, jeitos de sentar diferente, irritacoes sem motivos, e coisas mais diretas, como tiques e explosoes de furia.

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19-12-12, 12:40 #83
Após massacre em escola primária, procura por mochilas à prova de balas dispara nos EUA1

Do UOL, em São Paulo


Após o massacre em que 20 crianças foram mortas na última sexta-feira (14) em uma escola primária de Newtown, no Estado de Connecticut (EUA), a venda de mochilas infantis à prova de balas explodiu no país, segundo informações do site Mother Jones.

"Eu não tenho os números exatos, mas posso dizer que em uma semana triplicamos o volume de vendas que costumamos fazer em um mês", diz Derek Williams, presidente da Amendment II, empresa que produz coletes à prova de bala em Salt Lake City, no Estado de Utah, mas também tem uma linha de mochilas revestidas com material resistente a disparos de armas de fogo.

Apesar do salto nas vendas, Williams nega que sua companhia esteja se aproveitando para lucrar em uma situação delicada para o país, mas também afirma que não perderá a oportunidade para atender os anseios da população.

"Nós queremos ser delicados na condução dos negócios, mas vamos tentar passar nossa mensagem, a de que estes produtos existem", afirmou Williams. "Ao menos podemos garantir que nossos filhos tenham alguma proteção".

Entre os modelos disponíveis da Amendment II, há mochilas temáticas com as princesas da Disney ou com os personagens de "Os Vingadores" para as crianças. Cada um desses modelos custa em torno de US$ 300 (aproximadamente R$ 626).

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19-12-12, 12:42 #84
se durar igual a minha da taurus é um otimo investimento

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19-12-12, 15:58 #86
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Bora usar argumentos desonestos?

Detroit:
82% de afro-americanos.
710 mil hab.

Windsor:
77% brancos
210 mil hab.
Dã, foi só uma troladinha
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Detroit tem uma área metropolitana com mais de 4 milhões de habitantes, enquanto windsor tem uns 300 mil. Isso segundo a wikipedia.

E outra: no Canadá as pessoas tem o direito de ter armas, acho que isso encerra o argumento dos esquerdolas de plantão.
Non sequitur.

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15-01-13, 11:36 #88
http://blogs.forward.com/forward-thi...#ixzz2I0uklguO

This post originally appeared on the web site of the Dart Society, an independent association of journalists who cover violence and tragedy.

Nine days after Veronique Pozner’s son, Noah, was killed in the Newtown schools shootings, I interviewed her and other members of the family about their grieving process. The family had just finished observing the official Jewish mourning period.

I spent over an hour with Veronique; she talked me through her experience on December 14 and the days that followed. Her story was filled with moving and harrowing details: her dream of wandering an abandoned building calling out for Noah, her meeting with President Obama at a vigil at the local high school and her decision to get a tattoo of angel wings and Noah’s name the day after his death. The details that stuck with me the most — and the details which I felt most conflicted about putting in print — were Veronique’s descriptions of the damage to her son’s body. He was shot 11 times; she told me that his jaw and his left hand were mostly gone.

There were certain things Veronique wanted for Noah’s funeral. She felt that his body had suffered too many indignities already; she was adamant that he not be autopsied. She wanted him to be buried with a Jewish prayer shawl and with a clear stone with a white angel inside — an “angel stone” — in each of his hands. Veronique was only able to put the stone in his right hand because the left was “not altogether there,” she told me, crying for the first time in our interview. She asked the funeral director to put the other one in the left hand spot. “I made him promise and he did.”

Veronique told me that Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy visited her in the funeral home, and she brought him to see Noah’s open casket. I asked her why it was important for her and for the governor to see Noah’s body. “I needed it to have a face for him,” she said. “If there is ever a piece of legislation that comes across his desk, I needed it to be real for him.”

Veronique continued on in this vein for a few minutes. But I still felt that I didn’t understand why she, asa mother, chose to see Noah’s body, so I asked her again: Why, for her? “I owed it to him as his mother, the good, the bad, the ugly,” she said. “It is not up to me to say I am only going to look at you and deal with you when you are alive, that I am going to block out the reality of what you look like when you are dead. And as a little boy, you have to go in the ground. If I am going to shut my eyes to that I am not his mother. I had to bear it. I had to do it.” Several family members also chose to view Noah’s body.

Then, unprompted by me, Veronique described what she saw: “We all saw how beautiful he was. He had thick, shiny hair, beautiful long eyelashes that rested on his cheeks. He looked like he was sleeping. But the reality of it was under the cloth he had covering his mouth there was no mouth left. His jaw was blown away. I just want people to know the ugliness of it so we don’t talk about it abstractly, like these little angels just went to heaven. No. They were butchered. They were brutalized. And that is what haunts me at night.”

After I left Newtown, I couldn’t stop thinking about this part of my conversation with Veronique and I wondered whether or not I should put it in the story. On the one hand, she had made it clear that she wanted the public — or at least, public officials — to have a picture of the damage inflicted on the children’s bodies. But on the other hand, I worried about sharing what seemed to be the most personal, most painful details. Would I be unnecessarily exposing the family? Were these details gratuitously violent? Would I be shocking readers instead of informing them?

I wrote the story, and included the details about the damage to Noah’s body just the way Veronique had described them, in the context of his funeral preparations, in the second half of the story:

The family placed stuffed animals, a blanket and letters to Noah into the casket. Lastly, Veronique put a clear plastic rock with a white angel inside — an “angel stone” — in his right hand. She asked the funeral director to place an identical one in his left, which was badly mangled.

Just before the ceremony, Connecticut Governor Dannel Malloy came to the funeral home to pay his respects. Veronique took him by the arm and brought him to the casket. Noah’s famously long eyelashes — which she spoke about in her eulogy — rested lightly on his cheeks and a cloth covered the place where the lower half of his face had been. “I just needed it to be real for [the governor],” she says. “This was a live, warm, energetic little boy whose life was snuffed out in a fraction of a second because our schools are so defenseless.”

Even though the Forward typically eschews quote verification, I offered it to Veronique, thinking she would want to know about this part of the story. I called her brother — my liaison to the family — the day before the story went to print and asked him if she’d like to speak with me about the article. Through him, Veronique declined.

At this point, I felt that we could ethically print the description. But I wanted to double check with my editor, Jane Eisner. I wrote her an email that evening: “Do you think the detail about his jaw being blown away is too much?” She responded: “It’s important to show the true violence.”

One problem remained: we hadn’t verified the fact that Gov. Malloy viewed Noah’s body. Since we were on a tight deadline, we removed that detail when we published the story online, and we added it back in after I had checked it with the Governor’s office.

After the story went to print online, I was surprised that the dozens of people who Tweeted, commented and emailed about the story didn’t mention our inclusion of these horrific details. Then Salon.com published a brief write-up of the story, highlighting the sensitive portion: “in a harrowing description of Noah’s corpse laid to rest, some idea is given of the damage the assault weapon wrought on his young body.”

On Salon’s Facebook page, one person wrote: “I didn’t need to read that. I would not have published it either.”

But many others defended our choice:

“People should read this, as hard as it is to do so, to see the damage these guns inflict – psychologically and physically”

“If nothing else can bring you to tears, the phrase ‘a cloth covered his face where his lower jaw had been’ will.”

“Not publishing allows people to gloss over the horrible details. Like banning photos of coffins coming back from the war. If people want to keep these guns available, the effects shouldn’t be hidden.”

Though I have not spoken with Veronique since the story went to print, I have a feeling that she would agree with these comments. I now believe that she told me about what happened to Noah’s body so that I would use it in the story, and give the public a clear picture of the brutality of the Sandy Hook shooting.

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27-03-13, 11:48 #89
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/0...es-inside-you#

Senator Diana Feinstein had a Doctor who witnessed the horror of Sandy Hook testify before the Senate, and he brought a video that every American should see.

This is the difference between a hunting gun and a gun for war.

First, watch the video. They used a test rifle, the Bushmaster, to show how injuries from such a weapon are "unsurvivable"

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. . . Here is a short transcript

Sen. Feinstein: "Did you actually treat Sandy Hook victims?"
Sandy Hook Doctor: (((clears throat))) "Yes, I was, I was, I was in the ER that day when the victims came in."

Sen. Feinstein: "Can you describe the kinds of wounds and the number of bullets in these small bodies?"

Sandy Hook Doctor: "There's privacy rules that prevent from detailing the type of wounds or, but, most of it, most of them, the victims that actually didn't come in, and we had such horrific injuries to little bodies, that's what happens. They never even make it in the hospital. The coroner from the State of Connecticut, when he did his review, and this is public knowledge, stated that each body had three to eleven bullets, okay, when the child has three to eleven bullets in them and it is an assault type bullet that explodes inside the body, it doesn't go through a straight line, it goes in and then it opens up, that, that, that's not a survivable injury. So, with respect to the families who lost loved ones and had them come into the emergency room for (inaudible) rules I, I, I can't describe the specifics but I hope I have at least painted a picture of what went on."

Sen. Feinstein: "Thank you very much. Did you have something that you wanted to show us?

Sandy Hook Doctor: "There was a very brief video, about one minute, and the point of the video is to highlight the difference between a bullet that goes into a body that's from a .22, and I'm not a ballistics expert, but just like basically a handgun versus an assault weapon, and it just highlights the difference in damage inside a person's body, so, if we may . . .

Here's a thought. If you support the wars and want a gun designed for war join the armed forces, and if you can't do that you are a coward. You can have guns for hunting and guns for self defense, but guns for war are for soldiers and you shouldn't be allowed to play soldier in your backyard while we are fighting the war YOU demanded overseas with someone else's kid in harms way.

Here's another thought to all those anti-abortion fanatics, if you are brought to tears over a clump of unformed cells but choose your precious gun over someone else's fully formed child you aren't allowed to say shit about abortion anymore.

And how appropriate that the video ends with Senator Feinstein turning to her side and saying "Um, Senator Graham?"

I leave the floor to you.

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