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13-04-17, 13:19 #751
boa sorte na negociação..
sou doido num datejust II 41mm ... quem sabe um dia





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14-04-17, 10:46 #752
@WaR WoLf; olha só o artigo que encontrei sem querer:

Raymond Weil, 87; kept Swiss watch industry ticking
By Paul Vitello NEW YORK TIMES FEBRUARY 04, 2014

NEW YORK — Swiss watch companies had dominated the world of precision timekeeping for two centuries by the 1970s, when a technological marvel known as the quartz watch — a cheaper, more accurate work of horology mass produced in Asia — threatened them with extinction.

Between 1970 and 1983, as watch buyers abandoned windup mechanical timepieces for digital ones, the Swiss lost half their watch companies, two-thirds of their watchmaking jobs, and their unrivaled authority as the world’s most reliable timekeepers. Industry analysts called it the “quartz crisis.”

Raymond Weil, who died at 87 on Jan. 26 in the Swiss city of Calvin, started a watch company that bore his name in the midst of all that, joining a watchmaking vanguard that saved the nation’s signature product by redefining it.

Swiss watches had been marketed as symbols of intellectual rigor and personal integrity. Beginning in the late 1970s, Mr. Weil and major Swiss watchmakers like Nicolas G. Hayek, founder of the Swatch Group, sought to reposition them as paragons of haute fashion, “an emotional product, carrying a message about the authenticity, uniqueness, and excellence of the wearer,’’ said Ryan L. Raffaelli, an assistant professor at the Harvard Business School who has studied the Swiss watchmaking industry.

By the late 1980s, Raffaelli said, the Swiss companies still standing had followed suit.

Mr. Weil started his company in 1976, when he was 50. He began modestly, selling his first designs from a foldout bridge table in a stall in Geneva, he said in a 2011 company promotional video interview. Most people in the industry considered it a mad scheme, Raffaelli said; about 800 Swiss watchmaking companies died in the 1970s.

Mr. Weil, who led the company for about 20 years, combined high-quality mechanisms produced in his own and other Swiss factories with original designs and features. He marketed them internationally to appeal to so-called entry-level luxury buyers. In today’s dollars, entry-level luxury watches sell for $500 to $4,000. High-end luxury models cost $20,000 or more.

Mr. Weil’s line included both mechanical Swiss watches of the spring-powered, cog-and-gear type and others powered by quartz crystals, known as Swiss quartz watches. What they all had in common were their “Swiss-made” bona fides, design values that conveyed understated grace (what The Times of London characterized as a “watch with lovely manners”); and the benefit of Mr. Weil’s marketing.

He was also considered a pioneer in celebrity-endorsement advertising. Paul McCartney, Lady Gaga, Ozzy Osbourne, and Andrea Bocelli are among the stars who have been contracted to wear Raymond Weil watches exclusively for defined periods.

The company — now run by Mr. Weil’s son-in-law, Olivier Bernheim, and two grandsons, Elie and Pierre Bernheim — has become one of the most familiar of the Swiss watch brands. And in a Swiss industry with genealogies, in most cases, dating back a century or more, Mr. Weil is both the youngest and one of the few independent, family-run watchmaking concerns in the country.

Since the 1980s, Swiss watchmakers have reestablished their preeminence, at least in terms of sales: In a 2010 study, they accounted for just over half the dollar value of all watches sold worldwide. The most expensive are Swiss mechanical watches.

Raymond Louis Weil was born in Geneva. After graduating from a technical high school, he went to work for the Société Générale de Surveillance, a Swiss company that inspects and verifies the quantity, weight, and quality of various goods traded around the world.

In 1949 he joined Camy Watch in Geneva and rose to general manager. He worked there for 27 years before deciding to strike out on his own.

Mr. Weil leaves his wife, Eliane Bloch Weil, and two daughters, Diana and Anita Weil.

Raffaelli said the threat posed by the 1970s crisis was existential, as well as economic.

“This was an industry that traced its roots to the early 1500s,” he said. “People employed in watchmaking in the 1970s had fathers, grandfathers, great-grandfathers, and beyond who had done the same work. Watchmaking was tied up in what it meant to be Swiss, the national sense of competence.”

Mr. Weil, though not the son of a watchmaker, sensed their importance to the national identity.

“He was a kind of visionary,” Raffaelli said.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/ob...nfJ/story.html

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17-04-17, 18:56 #753
lástima: deu errado.

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17-04-17, 19:36 #754
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@WaR WoLf; olha só o artigo que encontrei sem querer:

Raymond Weil, 87; kept Swiss watch industry ticking
By Paul Vitello NEW YORK TIMES FEBRUARY 04, 2014

NEW YORK — Swiss watch companies had dominated the world of precision timekeeping for two centuries by the 1970s, when a technological marvel known as the quartz watch — a cheaper, more accurate work of horology mass produced in Asia — threatened them with extinction.

Between 1970 and 1983, as watch buyers abandoned windup mechanical timepieces for digital ones, the Swiss lost half their watch companies, two-thirds of their watchmaking jobs, and their unrivaled authority as the world’s most reliable timekeepers. Industry analysts called it the “quartz crisis.”

Raymond Weil, who died at 87 on Jan. 26 in the Swiss city of Calvin, started a watch company that bore his name in the midst of all that, joining a watchmaking vanguard that saved the nation’s signature product by redefining it.

Swiss watches had been marketed as symbols of intellectual rigor and personal integrity. Beginning in the late 1970s, Mr. Weil and major Swiss watchmakers like Nicolas G. Hayek, founder of the Swatch Group, sought to reposition them as paragons of haute fashion, “an emotional product, carrying a message about the authenticity, uniqueness, and excellence of the wearer,’’ said Ryan L. Raffaelli, an assistant professor at the Harvard Business School who has studied the Swiss watchmaking industry.

By the late 1980s, Raffaelli said, the Swiss companies still standing had followed suit.

Mr. Weil started his company in 1976, when he was 50. He began modestly, selling his first designs from a foldout bridge table in a stall in Geneva, he said in a 2011 company promotional video interview. Most people in the industry considered it a mad scheme, Raffaelli said; about 800 Swiss watchmaking companies died in the 1970s.

Mr. Weil, who led the company for about 20 years, combined high-quality mechanisms produced in his own and other Swiss factories with original designs and features. He marketed them internationally to appeal to so-called entry-level luxury buyers. In today’s dollars, entry-level luxury watches sell for $500 to $4,000. High-end luxury models cost $20,000 or more.

Mr. Weil’s line included both mechanical Swiss watches of the spring-powered, cog-and-gear type and others powered by quartz crystals, known as Swiss quartz watches. What they all had in common were their “Swiss-made” bona fides, design values that conveyed understated grace (what The Times of London characterized as a “watch with lovely manners”); and the benefit of Mr. Weil’s marketing.

He was also considered a pioneer in celebrity-endorsement advertising. Paul McCartney, Lady Gaga, Ozzy Osbourne, and Andrea Bocelli are among the stars who have been contracted to wear Raymond Weil watches exclusively for defined periods.

The company — now run by Mr. Weil’s son-in-law, Olivier Bernheim, and two grandsons, Elie and Pierre Bernheim — has become one of the most familiar of the Swiss watch brands. And in a Swiss industry with genealogies, in most cases, dating back a century or more, Mr. Weil is both the youngest and one of the few independent, family-run watchmaking concerns in the country.

Since the 1980s, Swiss watchmakers have reestablished their preeminence, at least in terms of sales: In a 2010 study, they accounted for just over half the dollar value of all watches sold worldwide. The most expensive are Swiss mechanical watches.

Raymond Louis Weil was born in Geneva. After graduating from a technical high school, he went to work for the Société Générale de Surveillance, a Swiss company that inspects and verifies the quantity, weight, and quality of various goods traded around the world.

In 1949 he joined Camy Watch in Geneva and rose to general manager. He worked there for 27 years before deciding to strike out on his own.

Mr. Weil leaves his wife, Eliane Bloch Weil, and two daughters, Diana and Anita Weil.

Raffaelli said the threat posed by the 1970s crisis was existential, as well as economic.

“This was an industry that traced its roots to the early 1500s,” he said. “People employed in watchmaking in the 1970s had fathers, grandfathers, great-grandfathers, and beyond who had done the same work. Watchmaking was tied up in what it meant to be Swiss, the national sense of competence.”

Mr. Weil, though not the son of a watchmaker, sensed their importance to the national identity.

“He was a kind of visionary,” Raffaelli said.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/ob...nfJ/story.html
Foda! A Raymond Weil virou o que SWATCH deveria e poderia ter sido se os designers deles fossem tão bons quanto os engenheiros de produção IHUHAIUEH. Se bem que a SWATCH comprou marcas fodas tipo a Omega, Tissot, Longines, BREGUET...etc...mas inegável que a marca matriz produz relógios que você compra na lojinha da Disney. (pra quem não sabe a SWATCH produz a mecânica de boa parte dos relógios suiços entry lvl)

A RW mesmo sendo uma empresa pequena possui 15% de marketshare no US (local onde possuem atuação mais forte) - isso de vendagem de relógios no geral, não por nicho. Eles são fodas.

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19-04-17, 21:10 #755
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Bom site esse watchuseek

Vlw pela dica Mdk
achou algo que presta na ali?

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19-04-17, 21:26 #756
Ae, ta procurando os estilo diver azul ainda?

e esses Shinobi? (sim, eu sei que é sinobi, mas falar SHINOBI é muito mais massa)


 


https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/SINOB...c-d03bb8945271

22 dolares lol

curti

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MdKBooM
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19-04-17, 21:30 #757
clone do oris aquis. o design é legal mas a qualidade deve ser terrível.

edit: agora que vi o video e eles falam que é "inspired by oris aquis.. sei.. é clone, tudo igual em termos de design: dial, crown guard, bracelete integrado, etc.

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19-04-17, 21:32 #758
é quartz, bem melhor que uns ai que tem um monte de partinha movel pra quebrar

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20-04-17, 09:13 #759
nome de omega
design de oris

pra mim não rola. não é o fato de ser "clone", é simplesmente por ter algo no seu pulso cuja qualidade (falta dela) salta aos olhos. eu sempre iria olhar pro relógio e ficar imaginando como seria o verdadeiro, com um vidro de safira realmente transparente, uma pulseira bem feita e uma luneta que brilham, com aquele acabamento quase perfeito do oris.

por sinal, estou namorando um há tempos. talvez na minha próxima viagem eu traga. só rola uma dúvida monstra entre o aquis date e o divers 65

 


 

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20-04-17, 09:29 #760
aaaaah, e tem mais, agora achei um automatico por DEIZOITO dolares hsauehsauehsa

http://www.gearbest.com/men-s-watches/pp_386851.html

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f72/win...-367141-6.html

 


GO CHINA GO!

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20-04-17, 11:48 #761
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aaaaah, e tem mais, agora achei um automatico por DEIZOITO dolares hsauehsauehsa

http://www.gearbest.com/men-s-watches/pp_386851.html

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f72/win...-367141-6.html

[IMAGEM]

GO CHINA GO!


comprei um preto desse, veremos quando chegar !

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21-04-17, 01:43 #762
Artigo legal do tested.com: http://www.tested.com/tech/44288-pre...and-so-pricey/

Ao final tem um quote que compara relógios mecânicos com tamagotchis. Achei bacana.

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21-04-17, 09:56 #763
Caraio, comprei esse daí, azul também!
PQP
vamos ver se chega, nunca comprei da China

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22-04-17, 14:52 #764
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aaaaah, e tem mais, agora achei um automatico por DEIZOITO dolares hsauehsauehsa

http://www.gearbest.com/men-s-watches/pp_386851.html

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f72/win...-367141-6.html

[IMAGEM]

GO CHINA GO!
achei um review aqui:

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marconds
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05-05-17, 13:49 #765
E aí, chegou o relógio de vocês?
O meu já foi enviado faz 8 dias mas por enquanto nada.

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05-05-17, 15:05 #766
8 dias? Hahaha tá de sacanagem que você já está ansioso.. Compra da China é 30 a 60 dias.

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05-05-17, 15:09 #767
Coisas da China normalmente chegam qd eu já esqueci oq comprei

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05-05-17, 15:24 #768
relaxa, eu comprei uma parada da china em 13/03

já fez aniversario de um mês, chegou no CORREIOS na 3a semana do mês passado

era express air - que teoricamente chega em 3 dias.

até agora está lá no correios e não acontece nada. quando chegar provavelmente nem terei mais interesse.

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05-05-17, 15:34 #769
Vai passar uns bons 20 dias naquele buraco negro chamado Curitiba

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05-05-17, 15:49 #770
Eu tenho tido sorte, tudo q comprei de valor tem chegado em 30 dias mais ou menos sem tributar (teve um que passou por ctba mas não taxaram). Fiz 2 compras de 2 cabos USB de vendedores diferentes que não deram nem 10 reais e demoraram tanto que pedi devolução do dinheiro, só que não chegaram até hj

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05-05-17, 16:11 #771
porra marconds, quase engasguei aqui quando li sua ansiedade. hahahahahhaha

Minhas últimas compras da china demoraram pra chegar: 100 e 110 dias respectivamente.

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05-05-17, 16:44 #772
100 dias
vtnc
porra luciano

se meus bagulho chegarem com 100 dias eu nem recebo mais, baguiu eh enfeite de natal escrito "feliz 2017 - boas festas"


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05-05-17, 20:17 #773
tava entre o OLIS (Sinobi) e o LOLEX (winner), acabei optando pelo OLIS pq achei o azul mais bonito

vamos ver

(daqui uns 120 dias)

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05-05-17, 20:33 #774
Minhas duas últimas compras eu já ganhei ressarcimento, pois não chegaram. Uma chegou 45 dias depois do prazo limite do aliexpress... A outra não chegou ainda.

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05-05-17, 20:50 #775
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porra marconds, quase engasguei aqui quando li sua ansiedade. hahahahahhaha

Minhas últimas compras da china demoraram pra chegar: 100 e 110 dias respectivamente.
 

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05-05-17, 23:11 #776
Haueuwhuahwha

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marconds
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29-05-17, 20:02 #777
Chegou!!!!
Não dá pra esperar muito de um relógio por esse preço, mas com certeza é melhor do que eu esperava!
E agora tenho um relógio mecânico, leve, bonito e barato pra usar!

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29-05-17, 20:15 #778
PICS OR DIDNT HAPPEN

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29-05-17, 21:17 #779
 

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29-05-17, 21:22 #780
tekpix?

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marconds
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29-05-17, 21:37 #781
aheoihaeoiuae
sabia que vinha um espertinho!
tirei com pouca luz para vocês não ficarem olhando nos reflexos, procurando por sinais das minhas realdolls.

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29-05-17, 21:38 #782
13 merkels? que que achou do movimento?

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29-05-17, 21:45 #783
Isso, comprei por uns 20 doletas, somando com o envio (Grand Total $20.04). Achei muito bacana a parte de trás que mostra parte do mecanismo.
Ele ainda é muito grande pro meu pulso, vou ter que mandar ajustar.
A qualidade dos materiais é boa, principalmente pelo preço que foi pago.
Ele não é grande demais, também não é pequeno. A visualização é boa, veio bem embalado, em perfeito estado.
Com certeza uma excelente compra, to bem satisfeito!

Não sei falar sobre o movimento, só sei que atrás fica aparecendo aquela parte do mecanismo que dá a corda automaticamente. Bem interessante, bonita, pena que não dá pra ver com ele no pulso!

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10-07-17, 20:10 #784
Promoçãozinha na Timex peguei um Expedition Scout

 


(o da direita, cinza com verde escuro)

106 reá, na amazon é 40 doleta

sempre quis um GI Watch com pulseira estilo nato, e por esse preço tava de gratis (nao, nao tava, tava 106 reais)

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11-07-17, 12:05 #785
eu gosto desse modelo, parece muito um seiko que eu tinha

Edit: lembra né

 

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11-07-17, 12:08 #786
belo relógio, sig

comprou nos eua mesmo? mandou entregar aqui? como fez para sair mesmo por 106 reais?

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11-07-17, 12:37 #787

po tbm queria um desses
troquei a pulseira mas n ficou mto bom

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11-07-17, 18:29 #788
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Promoçãozinha na Timex peguei um Expedition Scout

[IMAGEM]

(o da direita, cinza com verde escuro)

106 reá, na amazon é 40 doleta

sempre quis um GI Watch com pulseira estilo nato, e por esse preço tava de gratis (nao, nao tava, tava 106 reais)
Nato é mto legal...
meu irmão me ensinou a gostar dessa pulseiras... maioria dos relógios q tenho são com pulseira original trocada pra nato aheuhauhe

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11-07-17, 18:59 #789
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belo relógio, sig

comprou nos eua mesmo? mandou entregar aqui? como fez para sair mesmo por 106 reais?
não, na loja oficial da timex aqui do huebr mesmo

ta tendo promoção, varios modelos a preços bacanas

http://www.timex.com.br/off

e na hora de pagar coloca o cupão TIMEX20OFF ou TIMEX15OFF que da mais um descontin

ah, e ficou 103, e nao 106...109 com o frete

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12-07-17, 10:15 #790
fdp

só fala agora que as opcóes estão reduzidas rs

gostei de alguns, mas está difícil escolher...

acho que vou pegar um expedition parecido com o seu pro dia-a-dia. já recebeu o seu pra fazer um review rápido pra gente?

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12-07-17, 10:41 #791
Nem despacharam ainda, a loja da Timex tem fama de ser demorada rs

Bem, tenho outro expedition e acho que o mecanismo é o mesmo... Barulhento para cacete e o ponteiro da as tremidinhas, mas de resto eu curto, o acabamento é bem bom para a faixa de preço

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21-07-17, 09:31 #792
Entrei em contato com a Timex devido a demora, falaram que era a ultima peça em estoque e não passou no controle de qualidade, vão devolver o dinheiro

propus se podiam trocar pelo azul, vamos ver se aceitam

 


não é tão cool quanto o verde, mas va la

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21-07-17, 09:39 #793
curti mais esse azul ae

mas essas pulseiras aí fica fedendo e precisa lavar depois de um tempo, não?

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03-08-17, 23:41 #794
E não é que a Timex mandou um verde?

Falaram que nao iam mandar, pedi pra trocar pelo azul, negaram e falaram que iam devolver o dinheiro...

ai mandam o verde husaehusaehsa

vai entender...

Tudo ok com o relogio, achava que era pequeno mas nao é não, deu certin, bem acabado, gostei

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03-08-17, 23:55 #795
pics or stfu

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26-01-18, 22:38 #796
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fui testar a precisão dos meus movimentos. maestro com movimento suíço +6s; seiko 5 com movimento japonês +30s; genérico com movimento chinês +1.7s. pqp

relógio diver russo 200m, barato (entre $60 e $100) e foda:


ainda terei um mergulhador desses aí..
Brinquedo novo que chegou esses dias:

A qualidade me surpreendeu. Sempre ouvi que o acabamento era ruim, mas nesse não tenho do que reclamar.

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04-02-18, 18:36 #797
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@MdKBooM; estou começando a te odiar. não via graça nenhuma no skx nem nos outros pepsi bezel da seiko. mas depois que você postou esse padi turtle eu já assisti uns 5 videos dele e estou quase comprando. esse azul dele é bonito demais, pqp!
E esse aqui? Parece que lançou esses dias no Japão.


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04-02-18, 20:03 #798
celular de voces não marca hora?

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13-03-18, 12:10 #799
vale e-relogio?

 


 



meu victorinox deu pau e precisava dum monitor cardíaco, juntei os dois num Xiaomi Huami Amazfit Smartwatch 2
riso

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13-03-18, 12:12 #800
Curtiu? A bateria dura quanto tempo? Estou pensando em comprar um smartwatch futuramente

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13-03-18, 12:25 #801
comprei ontem
daqui 7 meses quando receber eu dou o feedback

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13-03-18, 12:47 #802
HOAIEUHAUE até chegar já lançou o 3

fico no aguardo do feedback tb

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13-03-18, 13:04 #804
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E esse aqui? Parece que lançou esses dias no Japão.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE2blXWlVUY
Relógio lindo pra carai. Será o próximo se os correios permitirem.

Recomendo muito o invicta Pro Diver: automático, barato com máquina SEIKO. Relógio muito bem acabado. Foi uma grata surpresa.

No BR está R$900,00, fora você encontra entre 100USD a 75USD.

 


 


Comprei um igual esse da última foto, mas com display preto. É lindo.

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13-03-18, 14:06 #805
relógio dourado só se for taxista ou bicheiro

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13-03-18, 14:09 #806
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eu tenho um invicta dourado e preto com pulseira de borracha

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13-03-18, 15:33 #807
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relógio dourado só se for taxista ou bicheiro
O relógio é 40mm & diver, pode usar dourado sem problemas. Fora que sou um homem bonito, então mesmo que seja feio quando usado por pessoas feias, em mim fica estiloso.

Até comprei com fundo preto pra não ficar muito chamativo, mas me arrependi de não pegar dourado-fundo verde. O relógio é fodasso.

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13-03-18, 16:16 #808
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eu tenho um invicta dourado e preto com pulseira de borracha
cribslei, sou seu fã.

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13-03-18, 22:23 #809
Quando falei desse Invicta Pro Diver o mdk ficou igual uma bicha falando "pega seiko, pega seiko, pega seiko"

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13-03-18, 22:29 #810
invicta só faz porcaria. se é pra comprar um rolex falso pega um de marca chinesa logo

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25-05-18, 09:09 #811
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pode postar aqui? rs

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25-05-18, 10:04 #812
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tenho um desses ai tbm
muito bom, mudou minha rotina de exercicios e academia
ver o quanto vc ta gastando e como é realmente massa

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25-05-18, 13:50 #813
Herege!

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08-06-18, 17:03 #814
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Vou comprar um também.

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08-06-18, 18:14 #815
qnt custa o outfit?

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08-06-18, 18:34 #816
1.000 dols

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09-06-18, 15:05 #817
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qnt custa o outfit?
Essa pulseira Xiaomi? Custa em torno de 100 reais a versão 2.

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