Greve dos escritores da TV americana :-(

[Sephiroth]

http://tv.ign.com/articles/832/832307p1.html


-Heroes deve ter a temporada encolhida pra 11 eps e terminar mes q vem

-Varias outras series devem ter que encurtar as temporadas

-E o mais triste: a temporada 2007/2008 de LOST e 24horas periga ser CANCELADA


(apesar do artigo dizer que Lost ta garantido, ja li em outros lugares que nao eh bem assim...)

[detonator]

Faz uma super-campanha e deixa os fãs escreverem como acaba o negócio....

[StorM]

Não vai rolar isso não, pode ficar tranquilo. Tu acha que emissoras não tem dinheiro pra bancar uma negociação com roteiristas?

[Sephiroth]

nao eh a primeira vez q isso acontece
ja teve uma greve q parou as produçoes da TV americana na decada de 90
acho q foi do pessoal técnico(maquiagem, figurino, som etc)

[ZeroCarontE]

vcs leram o motivo da greve?
eles ganham 4 centavos por dvd vendido, querem aumentar pra 8 em dvds q venderam mais de 1kk

e por qt mesmo eh vendido um dvd? o do heroes season 1 tah saindo por 20 dolares, com desconto na amazon
e qual mesmo eh um dos grandes motivos pra alguem gostar ou nao de uma serie? "a historia eh boa", "a historia eh fraca"

[Aqualung]

O que eu vi sobre o Heroes é que a Heroes: Origins tinha sido adiada.

[Darth Maul]

Da lista do jms, mensagem do próprio

Postado por J. Michael Straczynski

Let me jump in here for a second to try and turn the discussion a bit, in that the situation as it affects writers is vastly different than in any other union.

First, to the non- or anti-union folks, a question: when you go into a book store to buy a copy of a novel by your favorite author, do you mind that roughly twelve percent of the price of that book goes to the author? Or do you feel that he's entitled to that royalty? Most folks, I would suggest, are totally okay with that idea. They wrote the book, the publisher published the book, they're both entitled to get something back from the publishing of it. That seems only fair.

The situation with the WGA is really no different. It's a way of ensuring that artists -- who live in a very different world than the 9-5 universe everybody else lives in -- receive some regular form of compensation to keep them alive and solvent during the often very long periods of time required to create the next thing.

Leaving off such catastrophic events as being laid off or fired...most people go to work every day in expectation of a paycheck that will come regularly. Writers don't. They get paid when they a) write, b) finish what they write, and c) someone decides to *pay* for what they've written. It's not uncommon for writers to go a year, two years, even longer without working in their chosen field. Doesn't matter who you are. After William Goldman won his first Oscar, he didn't work again for almost five years.

The royalties formula in books, and the residuals formula in tv/film, is all that allows writers to keep doing what they're in the period when they're *writing* and not *selling*. Take that away, and many of the works of literature and film that we've come to enjoy would not exist because the writers involved would not have been able to create them, they would've been forced to go out and seek employment elsewhere.

Prose writers have the authors' guild or SFWA or other organizations that watchdog publishers and provide assistance and information on royalties, contracts, health insurance and the like. TV/film writers have the WGA, which is a much more complex organization because the permutations and ways in which monies can be hidden, and by which revenue streams are delivered, are all massively more complex.

There was a time, back in the 30s and 40s, when writers got nothing more than a script fee for their work, even though it might take a year or more to write that script. And a lot of talented writers fell by the wayside. The creation of the WGA changed that and brought into par with the prose writers whose royalties you would seem to feel are right and proper. And those can't be negotiated person-by-person because the studios see us as individually replaceable. Only collectively can there be any impact.

I've had my problems with the WGA over the years, some of them have become nearly legendary with the WGA. But if the WGA did not exist, there would be no way for most writers to survive doing what they love to do. As to this coming labor action, when you go into the store next and buy a DVD and a book, look at the two of them and know that the author of the book gets a full twelve to fifteen percent of the price...and the author of the DVD gets, at most four cents per DVD, and most of the time literally and absolutely nothing for it...and ask yourself, "Why the difference?"

That's the question at hand at the WGA as well.

jms

[Sephiroth]

Status das minhas series favoritas:

Heroes: As we reported Friday, Heroes is likely going to turn their December 3rd episode, the eleventh of the season, into the season finale. It was always intended as the end of the "Generations" story, and a new ending has been written in order to turn it into a season finale.

Lost: ABC's big mid-season show was meant to be Lost, which was to return to begin a 16 episode fourth season early next year. Last week Eonline reported that Lost had been written up through episode 14, so that the majority of the season could be shot.

- ABC
Michael Emerson in Lost
However, IGN spoke to Lost star Michael Emerson this past Friday and he said, "You know, I know that's out there but I don't think that's true. I think that story is not true. To the best of my knowledge, they never have more than one episode beyond what we're shooting." Emerson told us he was currently shooting the seventh episode of Season 4 and that "We probably have enough material to complete the first half of their season." It's assumed that ABC will likely decide to at least air the completed eight episodes in the spring.

Prison Break: Also a bit luckier than many other serialized dramas, Prison Break has enough scripts completed to get them through episode 13. That episode had always been intended to be a mid-season cliffhanger, so it can easily function as a full season cliffhanger under these new circumstances.

24: Fans won't be happy about this. The promotional push for Season 7 had already begun, but given the situation, the show might not debut at all this TV season. Because of the heavily serialized nature of the series and the specific 24 hours over 24 episodes format, FOX and the producers are debating whether it's worth airing only the first few episodes of the season, only to have the storyline be cut off for an unknown amount of time. Sources IGN spoke to have heard that the show has enough scripts completed to only get them through around episode 10 of the season. Beyond that, if production can't resume within a month, it's almost certain to ensure that the show won't be able to complete 24 episodes this season and thus won't be airing at all. Presumably the completed episodes would be held for whenever production does resume and air together during the 2008 - 2009 TV season.

24horas



Ainda bem que Dexter já tava todo produzido

[Darth Maul]

Outside of Universal this morning was the bearded one himself, ["Battlestar Galactica" showrunner] Ron Moore, picketing the Universal Studios Gates with the entire writing staff.

I can confirm that the entire writing staff of TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES, including showrunners John Wirth and Josh Friedman, were out picketing at Warner Bros today.

LOST offices are now shut down, with J.J. Abrams picketing alongside the producers of the show

Reportedly, Tim Kring wouldn't comply with a weekend rewrite that would tack a season ending onto the last script written and is now off HEROES.

[StorM]

haha o JJ tá lá com bandeirinha junto com os roteiristas?

vai tomar no cu, paga logo esses fdps e façam tudo direitinho!

[vegetous]

Velho isso é pressão dos estúdios! Com lost, 24 e heroes (entre outras) gerando dinheiro a rodo, só se esses caras forem muito doidos de preferirem cancelar temporadas inteiras e ficarem sem audiência ao invez de pagar os escritores!

[StorM]

deus te ouça!

[Darth Maul]

Não acho que seja só pressão não. Quando teve outra dessas greves há coisa de uns 20 anos, ela durou 6 meses. Lembrando também que se as negociações não rolarem, a Screen Actors Guild (SAG) e a Directors Guild of America (DGA) também estão ameaçando greves pra 2008.

Mais uns reports, este aqui desmente o report acima sobre Tim Kring estar fora de Heroes:

Tim Kring, a producer and writer of the NBC hit "Heroes," said he had to revise the ending of the show's 11th episode on the chance that it might be the last one to air this season. "Fortunately we were able to hustle back," Kring said from a picket line in an effort to shut down the show. "The audience won't be left in a lurch."

Yesterday I was on the picket line at Fox with Howard Gordon ("24") and the creator/showrunner David Shore ("House M.D.")

Outra coisa que eu li é que se a greve se estender por muito tempo, os 6 episódios finais da temporada final de Scrubs provavelmente não serão produzidos (a série vai ficar sem fim)

[Darth Maul]

24 dançou

The Writers Guild turns out to be sufficiently badass to sideline even Jack Bauer.

Fox has decided it doesn’t want to just give fans only half a day in Bauer’s life, so the thriller’s 7th season has been yanked from January – with no plans to return it until the strike is settled.

[StorM]

Menos mal, eu não assisto 24 desde a 4º temporada mesmo.

[Conker]

parece q lost vai pra 2009
fonte:judao

[StorM]

O caralho, se Lost for adiada meu irmão se mata!

[vegetous]

Ainda bem que 24 ainda não havia começado, pois ela é provavelmente a única série que não dá pra simplesmente acabar no 11º capítulo.